Hello!,….I’ve been a steel tip player for 8 years and have always used bottelson spike tips for my darts witch are longest steel tips advavlable and was looking for a steel tip conversion point that was vary similar to a soft tip,…I recently joined a team in a soft tip league and now play darts twice a week and practice every night,…Switching out the long bottelson spike tips to soft tips messed with me a little and made my dart feel longer or shorter every time I switched out tips to depending if throwing steel or soft,….switching full time to the L-style conversion tips gives my darts the same feel whether I’m throwing in my steel or soft tip league,,..I’d recommend these tips to anyone having the same issue as I was switching up steel and soft tips every other night shooting darts 🎯